EPISODE 51


You grab your phone the second the alarm goes off, you have coffee straight away, and you "catch up" on sleep at the weekend.

 According to Phil Learney, that routine could be wrecking your recovery, your focus and your gains.


This week Ty sat down with Phil, a Human Performance Scientist, one of the most in-demand PTs this country has seen, and founder of HMN24. 

He's been in the fitness game for nearly 30 years and has trained some of London's most exclusive clientele.

His Advanced Coaching Academy has graduated nearly 8,000 coaches. Now he's working with Formula One, TikTok and the Mandarin Oriental to help people sleep, recover and perform better.

If you're serious about your training, your business or just waking up feeling human, this is the episode. Hit play, and send it to the mate who's always on his phone at 2am.

Phil joins Ty Temel on episode 50 of the Off Script podcast to share:

  • The science of your body clock.

  • Why cortisol isn't the villain the fitness world made it out to be.

  • Why your WHOOP might be giving you bad advice.

  • What HRV actually measures, and why super-fit athletes can still score low

  • The hospitality mindset that let Phil charge top-end rates and keep clients for years

  • Why the online coaching boom has an accountability problem

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EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS

 

“The biggest thing you can learn to do is learn how to communicate with human beings.” - 9:05 - Phil Learney

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“I never begged for clients. I never needed more clients. I never had that challenge.” 13:08 - Phil Learney

“The goal wasn’t to trump them. The goal was to deliver a better service, so ultimately, as a business I could charge more, which is what I did.” 13:31 - Phil Learney

“It’s like the guy in a nightclub standing in the corner waiting for the girl to come over and talk to him. This is what PT’s do.” - 18:00 - Phil Learney

“You’ve judged me maybe on what I’m wearing. Maybe the colour of my skin. You’ve not engaged with me when I’m a serious buyer.” 26:10 - Ty Temel

“It’s all about who has the most social followers or is creating the most engaging content, regardless of who’s actually delivering the best outcome for the client.” - 39:17 - Ty Temel

“Let’s not call it an alarm. Siren. You have a siren that goes off to wake you up in the morning.” - 52:43 - Phil Learney

“If you sleep in, you’re not in debt anymore. You’re jet lagged.” - 1:13:43 - Phil Learney


“You can be somebody who goes out every Friday and Saturday night and sleeps in every Saturday and Sunday. But if you do that, you have the biology of a shift worker.” 1:15:41 - Phil Learney

“Every mammal on the planet gets up to the sun. We don’t. We get up when an alarm goes off.” 1:16:57 - Phil Learney

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EPISODE 50